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#13349972 Jul 14, 2017 at 05:22 PM
Senior Officer
272 Posts
Like many of you, I was shocked and, I'll admit, a bit outraged when I saw the prices being charged for the different Mordor packages (link below). My ire was furthered when I learned that this new expansion would not be available for points (formerly Turbine Points, now LOTRO Points) until December. The more I thought about this issue and discussed it with other kinmates, the more I came to understand Standing Stone Games' unstated position.

As you may know, SSG recently bought LOTRO from Turbine. Where Turbine had the backing of Warner Brothers, SSG does not. The devs made a sacrifice and took a risk to purchase LOTRO and I am sure that we, as players, will see the rewards of this risk in Mordor and beyond. Still, SSG does need to recoup their losses. They have rent to pay and mouths to feed just like we do. Yes, having High-Elf be a playable race might be more a marketing ploy than a justifiable addition vis-a-vis Tolkien lore. And, yes, the extra perks they're offering with the $130 package are quite nice but, again, are probably also a marketing ploy. This doesn't mean that you, I, or any LOTRO player has to buy them. And it doesn't mean that we can't be upset about it since I know how many of us have been chomping at the bit to get into Mordor. But I urge you to try to understand and, possibly, appreciate SSG's perspective. I'm not saying you should simply pre-order Mordor out of the charitable kindness of your heart (though, as I write this post, I'm considering coughing up the cash for the lowest tier package); just keep an open mind.

Your friendly neighbourhood, snow-beast,
Khorilas


(http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/custom/pbpage.lotro-mordor)
"For a really healthy development of the arts, you need an educated audience as well as performers." - Eleanor Roosevelt
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#13350107 Jul 14, 2017 at 07:27 PM
Senior Officer
46 Posts
Well said. I agree completely. I'll probably buy the lowest tier of Mordor just to get in it. I thought about it, and realized that based on my playing history, it would take several years to level a new toon. I'll wait, and hope to be able to buy the race with LP when I'm ready to level it.
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#13350265 Jul 14, 2017 at 10:13 PM
Senior Officer
272 Posts
Seriously! We'd be in the Sixth Age by then. 😋
"For a really healthy development of the arts, you need an educated audience as well as performers." - Eleanor Roosevelt
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#13350295 Jul 14, 2017 at 10:47 PM
Kin Leader
231 Posts
I understand and agree. However, they took over a game where past practice was to sell the product in their store on release day. This is how I got Rohan. The pricing didn't bother me at all. It was the store release date. I have been saving my points for this release and was VERY disappointed when I saw that I won't be able to get it until months later.

I stand by my position and will NOT buy the expansion until I can spend my points on it in game. I'm sorry if I get left behind or even end up taking a break from the game. (this may happen in September with school starting anyway). I might also just work on underused alts and level them up while I wait for the expansion to be released.

I refuse to pay more money to get early access to an incomplete release (the instances won't be released till later) with all the bugs associated with an expansion. I'll see you in Mordor this winter though.

My 2 copper.
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#13351617 Jul 15, 2017 at 10:23 PM
Senior Officer
51 Posts
I feel that Standing Stone has really tried hard (and mostly succeeded) in listening and getting us what we want. Yes, the price is steep, and the goodies not as good as I would have expected ... but I do want them to stay in business. I'll buy one of the pre-orders, but haven't decided which one yet.

Not selling as LP at first is a bit odd, however.

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#13353159 Jul 16, 2017 at 11:29 PM
Officer
13 Posts
They need to ensure that as many people as possible will buy it with money. If there are people that would have bought it with LP that will instead buy it with real money because they want to play it now, than they get more money than they otherwise would have, and they kind of need more money.
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#13353188 Jul 17, 2017 at 12:05 AM
Kin Leader
231 Posts
#13353159 Maethad wrote:

They need to ensure that as many people as possible will buy it with money. If there are people that would have bought it with LP that will instead buy it with real money because they want to play it now, than they get more money than they otherwise would have, and they kind of need more money.



They also need to ensure that they keep their paying customers happy.

To be honest, I have been underwhelmed by the company thus far. I've submitted 2 tickets (one was with a problem renewing my VIP of all things) and it took WEEKS for them to respond.

I understand their grab for the money and don't begrudge them the attempt. However, when you alter past business practices like this, you do risk upsetting paying customers like myself. If I went to a gas station and took out my gas card and they said "sorry, we don't want to take that form of payment today", I'd likely find another gas station. I know this is different because some people grind out points, etc. However, there are people that pay for points and expect to be able to use them to buy things in the game.

At any rate, I'm old enough now that I don't need the newest shiny thing the moment it comes out. I'll get over it and wait till it comes out in the store.
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#13393738 Aug 13, 2017 at 06:37 AM
Kin Leader
485 Posts
Well, I just purchased the $80 version of the Mordor Expansion today. Previously I always bought the maximum edition available on expansions but could not justify the $130 version this time (probably because previous ones were never over $100!).
Leader & Mom of the Oathsworn! :)
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